I am aware of another (free) package that is being developed by a net.personality that will be released soon. Im not in a position to divulge any real information about it, name, person or company but rest assured it's been rated as "better than iss" anyway. That might be iss 1.0 however. Please dont write me asking because you wont get a response. Anyway, as I said, if you want something like ISS with support then buy it. Just dont tell us if you dont want it. I dont want to know. Cheers, Mark mark@netsys.com